The Pelvic Floor: A Doctor and Her Patient Hold It Together

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A small leak during a big laugh might hint towards a bigger story. In this episode exploring the pelvic floor, Dr. Olga Ramm and patient Nicole Curutchet answer the age-old question- what’s really going on down there? Nicole Curutchet starts off by sharing her experience of developing pelvic floor prolapse, which felt like a “tampon that’s halfway coming out.” She tackles the issue of finding the right provider, and shares about her surgery and recovery. On speaking out despite stigma, she says, “this is our bodies and it’s the truth, and we don’t want people to suffer, so why not talk about it?”  

For many people with vaginas, pelvic floor leakage, pain, and other symptoms, are often dismissed as just a fact of life. Dr. Ramm and Nicole argue that it doesn’t have to be that way. A variety of treatments exist for managing pelvic disorders, including physical therapy, insertable devices, and surgery.  

As Dr. Ramm reveals “birth remains the most common inciting injury to the pelvic floor…It’s something that affects a whole lot of us.” Dr. Ramm also discusses research that shows that trauma of all kinds impacts the pelvic floor, “almost like a linear relationship between the number of adverse events that you report and the prevalence of chronic pelvic pain.” 

In a topic often characterized by silence, Dr. Ramm encourages providers to proactively ask about the pelvic floor. She emphasizes the value of informing patients about all the types of care available to them and respecting patient autonomy: “You don’t have to follow a specific algorithm. Let the patient make the choice based on their individual values, their goals for themselves and their own personal case scenarios that they want to avoid.”  

Past episodes of our podcast to follow this one up:  

Dr. Olga Raam is the director of the UCSF Center for Urogynecology and Women’s Pelvic Health. She specializes in pelvic floor disorders and performs reconstructive pelvic surgeries with a focus on minimally invasive and robotic techniques. In her research, Ramm investigates topics related to urogynecology and reconstructive pelvic surgery, including surgical outcomes, birth trauma, care equity, and patient consent. In addition to patient care, Ramm is passionate about surgical education. She has held leadership roles in undergraduate and graduate medical training for urogynecology and reconstructive pelvic surgery at UCSF. 

Nicole Curutchet is an accomplished senior customer success manager. She has over 25 years of experience working with C-level relationships for a variety of Fortune 500 companies.  

Is Permanent Contraception Always Fool Proof? Find out with Dr. Schwartz and Dr. Treder

In this episode, Dr. Eleanor Bimla Schwartz and Dr. Kelly Treder discuss misconceptions about tubal sterilization, including debunking notions that it is 100% fool-proof, that the surgery is reversible, that it is more effective than other contraceptive options, and that there is little to no pain post-surgery. “I think we do have fairly widespread misunderstanding of what it means to have your tubes tied. A lot of people seem to have the understanding that that would be something you could easily untie and that it would be a procedure that you could undo,” Dr. Schwartz says. They highlight how important it is for providers to share information with patients about other long-acting contraception options (arm implant, IUD, vasectomy) and their effectiveness with preventing pregnancy, side effects, cost, accessibility, and longevity compared to surgery. Because of this, it is crucial for providers to be informed about the nuances of different contraceptive options. Dr. Schwartz and Dr. Treder provide firsthand insight into what difficult conversations surrounding contraceptives with patients can look like. “I think it’s just our obligation to make sure that they know about all available options, that they’re not arriving at this decision that they need to have a surgery because they think it’s the only thing that’s safe for them or the only thing that will work well for them,” says Dr. Schwartz.  

This episode is a follow up to S4 E5 Lesser-Known Forms of Birth Control and Downplayed Side-effects: Providing Empowering Contraceptive Carewith Dr. Karlin and health educator Mariana Horne.

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Resources recommended in the episode:  

  • Bedsider.org is an online resource designed to help individuals explore, compare, and access birth control options. Bedsider offers a comprehensive description of various contraceptive methods, such as IUDs, implants, pills, and sterilization using interactive tools, real-life stories, and educational content.  
  • Advancing Access is a UCSF resource that provides clear, evidence-based information on long-acting reversible and non-reversible birth control methods, including costs, benefits, and where to access care.  

CAPTC related trainings and resources 

Shared Decision Making in Contraceptive Counseling  

Person-Centered Contraception Counseling for Family Pact Clients  

Same-Day Placement of LARC: Solutions to Common Barriers  

Brief Bio  

Dr. Eleanor Bimla Schwartz Dr. Schwartz, MD is a professor of medicine at UCSF and the chief of the Division of General Internal Medicine at the San Francisco General Hospital. She has a particular interest in identifying ways to meet the needs of diverse populations, including women with chronic medical conditions and other underserved populations.  

Dr. Treder Dr. Kelly Treder, MD, MPH, is a board-certified OB-GYN at Boston Medical Center and an assistant professor of OB-GYN at Boston University School of Medicine. She specializes in family planning and is committed to health equity.  

Positive Women’s Network: Liberation as Women Living with HIV

Marnina “the Queen” Miller, human rights activist and co-executive director at the Positive Women’s Network (PWN), recounts her journey living with HIV as a young woman in the American South, finding a sense of belonging in the national community of PWN, and spearheading initiatives for HIV advocacy and treatment for people of all backgrounds. Marnina discusses some of the unique challenges that Black women face within their communities as they search for inclusive care and acceptance after HIV diagnosis. She also delves deep into the world of policy, closely examining how political advocacy can impact HIV criminalization and reproductive rights. Marnina highlights the importance of coming together to provide comprehensive sexual health education. She emphasizes moving past equity and towards liberation from HIV stigma: “I want liberation… I don’t want equity. I don’t want equality. I want liberation. I want to be free of HIV stigma.” 

Read the transcript of the episode.

About Positive Women’s Network 

Marnina Miller’s LinkedIn & Instagram 

Marnina Miller is a highly accomplished human rights activist, speaker, trainer, and social media strategist with a profound commitment to fostering positive change in society. She is currently the Co-Executive Director of the Positive Women’s Network- a nationwide group that fosters support, care, and community for women living with HIV.  

Link to Past Episodes with Similar Content: 

Monica Gandhi, MD: HIV as a Movement, Not Just an Infection 

The Clitoris and Its Friends: The Anatomy of Pleasure with Rachel Gross   

Intimacy Starts with I: Women, Self Love, and HIV with Michelle Lopez 

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Focus on Sexual Health Services for Latinx/Hispanic Communities: Session 2

Tuesday, February 25, 11am-12pm (PT).

Taking Sexual Histories and Risk Assessments in Spanish
This session will focus on everyday language used by clinicians and others in conversations with their Spanish-speaking clients and patients. This session will be in Spanish. Free CME/CNE will be offered.

Esta sesión se enfocará en el lenguaje cotidiano usado por médicos clínicos, y otros proveedores, durante conversaciones con clientes y pacientes hispanohablantes. Esta sesión se llevará a cabo en español. También se ofrecerán créditos CME/CNE gratuitamente.

This session is a collaboration with the Denver and New York City Prevention Centers.

Focus on Sexual Health Services for Latinx/Hispanic Communities: Session 1

Tuesday, February 11, 2025, 12:30-2:00pm PT

An Introduction to PrEP, PEP, and Doxy-PEP, and Navigation in Spanish
This workshop will introduce everyday terms used in PrEP, PEP, and doxy-PEP counseling in Spanish, through a basic review of these topics in Spanish. NOTE: This session is in Spanish.

Introducción a PrEP, PEP, y doxy-PEP, y el asesoramiento en español sobre ellos
Este taller introducirá términos cotidianos para asesorar a los pacientes de PrEP, PEP, y doxy-PEP en español, mediante un repaso básico de estos temas en el idioma.

Opt-out screening is an approach where all patients are informed that HIV/STIs screening will be performed as part of routine medical care, unless the patient specifically declines. Included in the job aid are resources from various sources (including the CDC and CDPH), a workflow for a typical office visit, and guidelines for best practices.

Recent research has shown that opt-out guidelines increase screening rates and subsequent treatment for HIV and STIs (such as chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis). This method reduces stigma, improves health equity, and opens the door for more comprehensive care.

Rapid Syphilis Testing in Practice

Our panel of providers will discuss the benefits and challenges of using rapid syphilis testing, including the rapid HIV/syphilis point-of-care test and the newly approved over-the-counter at-home syphilis test.

Thursday, December 5, 12-1:30pm PT.

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November 2024 Oral PrEP Financing Update

November 15, 2024

Special guests: Ryan Wilder Blue, CAPTC and Brian Abascal, Pacific AIDS Education & Training Center.

PrEP Financing Update

Changes are coming to oral PrEP assistance programs in 2025. We’ll learn how PrEP navigators and providers are planning for these changes to ensure uninterrupted PrEP access for their clients and patients. This session is a collaboration between the California Prevention Training Center and the Pacific AIDS Education Training Center.

Friday, November 15, 11am-12pm PT.

October Injectable PrEP Update

Special guests: Nick Sanders, Senior Prevention Program Manager, and Angela Mattingly, Clinical Pharmacist, at Damien Center (Indianapolis, IN).

Nick and Angela will talk about their injectable PrEP program (both in-person and telePrEP), including implementation, successes and challenges, and Indiana’s PrEP Assistance Program.

Thursday, October 17, 12-1pm PT

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